Guns N' Roses Interviews
Guns N' Roses interview
July
1993
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issue is this "vintage" interview with the inimitable
Guns N' Roses.
Attending
a Guns N' Roses concert is somewhat akin to going the the Indianapolis
500- you know there's gonna be plenty of highspeed entertainment,
and maybe if you're real lucky you'll see a death-defying crash
too. By now it's no secret that Guns N' Roses rank among the more,
shall we say, unpredictable bands that have graced the rock stages
of the world in recent years. You never know exactly when Axl
Rose and the boys are gonna show up- and you never know exactly
what's going to transpire once they do. Will there be a riot,
as happened to the band in St. Louis and Montreal? Will Axl throw
a hissy fit because somebody in the front row is pissing him off?
The only way to find out is the show up!
"I really
like general admission more than the situation where you've got
a lot of people who don't really care sitting in the front row,
Rose stated. "It pisses me off when you've got people right
in front of you with their arms crossed and a "show me something"
look on their faces. I don't need people to sit there and test
me. I'm up there, I know what I'm doing. I know how much effort
we're putting into it. I don't need someone sitting there saying
"impress me". I feel like saying, "no, you impress
me "
After more
than 19 months on the tour trail, Rose and his band of top gunners
still seem to bring as much fire to their on-stage performances
as they did way back in the initial stage of their historic Use
You Illusion road jaunt. In fact, if anything the on-stage camaraderie
between the band's six members (vocalist Rose, guitarists Gilby
Clark and Slash, bassist Duff McKagan, drummer Matt Saturn and
keyboardist Dizzy Reed) has grown markedly during their long stint
on the rock and roll highway.
And while
Rose's manic on-stage behavior marked the first leg of the tour
(prior to their precedent shattering summer outing with Metallica),
he now seems a much more calm and in-control personeven when things
go a little haywire.
"It still
gets to me when I see a crowd where a 17 year old kid acts like
he's bored," he said. "I want to ask him 'Hey, what
do you want? What do you have to do tonight that's better than
this?"
It was certainly
evident from the opening note of that evening's performance that
there were few people acting bored and even fewer sitting with
their arms crossed in the front row. It was the sixth night of
the "Skin And Bones" leg of their American tour, where
they had cut down the number of musicians, the size of the stage
and even the length of the show, and Guns N' Roses were cooking.
It became quickly apparent that there were to be no tirades, rantings
or grievances from Axl on this night- he was there to rock, as
were the 20,000 fans who packed the arena to its rafters. Having
stripped the band down to its main six components (putting aside
the backing vocalists and accompanying musicians who filled their
stadium stages), Guns N' Roses was a lean, mean rockin' machine
determined to prove (as of they had to) that they're the best
pure rock band on earth.
With Slash
leading the way with his burning guitar leads, and Axl focusing
his abundant energy on the songs rather than the crowd, such tunes
as You Could Be Mine, Civil War and Paradise City rocked with
an intensity that bordered on the perilous. Mixing a few familiar
tunes with a number of more obscure songs from their four albums,
it seemed as if G N' R was taking their musical passion to a new
frontier- providing each song with a special energy rush that
filled it to the bursting point. If ever there was a band that
had no concept what the term "going through the motions"
meant, it's Guns N' Roses.
"We put
everything we had into each of those songs when we first recorded
them," Rose said. "That's put a lot of pressure on us
when we play them live, because each night, whether we're into
playing a particular song or not, we have to rise up to the level
we presented on the album. But that's what keeps us going. Every
night we go on stage caring really deeply about every song we
do. We've played the hits, because we felt kind of obligated to
do that, but the whole point of the "Skin And Bones"
tour is to play the other songs, give them a chance to be heard
live. This is when we have some fun."
The
Slash Interview
1987.
by: Mike Greenblatt
Slash: I have
a headache you wouldn't believe.
MG: Not enough
sleep?
Slash: Too
much Jack Daniels. Drink it all the time. I burned my damn finger
last night and I can't remember how. Hey, how'd that Poison magazine
get on the bus?
MG: Uh, oh.
I, uh, gave it to (drummer) Steven (Adler) and told him not to
show it to anybody.
Slash: Hey,
I don't care, man. I'm no (bleepin') baby. I just wanted to know
where it came from.
MG: You were
right there when I gave it to him. You were sitting in the corner
of the dressing room with a beautiful girl on your arm.
Slash: I got
this reputation for being drunk all the time but I'm actually
not that bad. I'm actually a nice shy kid.
MG: Where
do you live?
Slash: Nowhere.
I live out of a suitcase on the road and when I'm not on the road
I, uh, live around.
MG: Major
musical influence?
Slash: I don't
have one. It's just something that developed over my 22 years.
I went to a lot of concerts when I was a kid growing up in England.
But I never saw anybody who directly influenced me.
MG: You sure
looked like you were influencing those kids out there tonight.
Slash: They
were drinkin' too much. Those kids out there looked like they've
been following the band around all over. Y'know, you got to make
choices in life. You can't keep on following bands around your
whole life and partying out. One day you're gonna wake up and
you'll be 30 years old and you won't have done a damn thing with
your life.
MG: What did
you do before you were a musician?
Slash: The
last job I had was in a music store and I got fired. I worked
other jobs too. One job I never showed up at because I found out
Mötley Crüe was recording in L.A. so I went to hang
out outside the studio.
MG: If you
weren't doing this, what would you be doing?
Slash: I'd
probably be doing something that had to do with art and wouldn't
be a nine-to-five thing. I just can't do that mundane sort of
everyday thing. It would have to be something where I could make
my own schedule. What about you?
MG: If I wasn't
writing about rock 'n' roll, I'd be playing it. You'll find that
most rock scribes are frustrated musicians.
Slash: Those
are the ones who are really into it. The critics who are into
it because they love it and not because it's a job are the only
true critics. So why don't join a band?
MG: Not enough
time. But this is about you, not me. How 'bout a self-description.
Slash: I'm
pretty shy and quiet. But I am short-tempered. I like to read.
I like to draw. That's probably a real contrast to what's been
written about me so far.
MG: What do
you think of your competition out there ... the other bands?
Slash: My
peers? Sometimes I don't like to say because I got myself in trouble
one other time but that's ok. My peers suck! They're really bad.
I hope that in another five years Guns N' Roses isn't considered
another Poison or another Kingdom Come. I hope we're remembered
as being different. I mean, we're in a bad time for rock 'n' roll
now. It's like here in the late '80's, people just ain't doing
anything from their soul. It's turned into a very business and
money oriented type industry. I would hope that we're a bit away
from that as far as the music goes. Don't forget we didn't have
to play any games to get signed. We signed our record deal on
our own terms and did things our own way. We told people that
we were gonna do just what we said we'd do and that's the only
way we'd sign a contract. And we stuck to it! So I would hope
that we're like one in a million right now.
MG: Well,
you are the band to see right now. The problem is longevity. How
can you possibly hope to keep up this pace?
Slash: Longevity
ain't a problem for us at all. Longevity is something that everybody
else thinks about, not us. We're just going to keep doing this
until it's no fun anymore. I know that's almost a cliche but it's
true. When it's not a turn-on anymore, that's when we quit. We're
not going to be one of those bands who say well, we gotta keep
going out there even though we hate every minute of it.
MG: That's
business, pure and simple.
Slash: Not
us. Right now we're on the road and we'll be on the road for a
long, long time. Then we'll finish the next album and stay in
the studio for a long long time. And the whole time, it'll be
fun. After the album is finished, we'll go back out on the road
and do it some more. Then the whole process will start again and
we'll keep doing it and doing it until I won't wanna turn around
and look at Steven behind those drums anymore. It doesn't matter
what anybody else says about how long we'll last.
MG: You guys
live the life of rock 'n' roll to the hilt. There's only so much
abuse a body can take. You can't keep on playing and drinking
and not sleeping and eating and then playing, drinking and starting
the whole cycle over again. You'll burn out completely in two
years or less!
Slash: We're
not stupid. Axl doesn't do any drugs or even drink hardly anymore.
He lives to be on that stage. He eats, sleeps and plays. That's
it. Izzy hardly even smokes anymore! Steven doesn't have any problems
in those regards and Duff and I drink. I try and get my sleep
but I'm just naturally an excitable person and can't get much
sleep on the road. We always seem to be on the bus at night. Y'know,
my whole personal life is wrapped up in this band and it's real
hard to separate the two. I have a steady girlfriend who you saw,
I only see her about twice a year when I'm not touring. I take
her with me on the road sometimes.
MG: How can
you stay so tight as a band while going so nuts on stage?
Slash: We
have signals onstage that help us ... whether it's eye contact
or something else. We improvise the whole time we're playing.
A lot of times we won't know what song we're gonna do and I'll
suggest one and we'll debate it right onstage! Sometimes I'll
start improvising and they'll know not to mess around until I'm
finished and I give them a nod. We do go off on our individual
things but somehow it all stays together. We do the whole show
like that. We screw up every so often but not that much. And that's
when we're headlining. When we're opening it's harder because
you have to do it all in a much shorter amount of time. We don't
have that big a space between songs and we can't take any long
solos. When you can start to predict stuff, the fun goes away.
Right now, nobody can predict our set.
The
Rolling Stone Interview -Axl Rose
August
1989. by: Del James
One guitar
has been destroyed, a mirror wall shattered, several platinum
albums broken beyond repair and the telephone dropped off a twelfth-story
balcony. Apparently, W. Axl Rose had to get something out of his
system.
Just two weeks
ago, everything in Rose's posh condo in West Hollywood, California,
was in order. The mirror was intact, reflecting a space in which
almost everything - including the refrigerator - is black. The
platinum albums, along with dozens of plaques and awards, hung
neatly on the wall.
So what happened?
On the surface one would think that the twenty-seven-year-old
singer for the hard-rock phenomenon Guns n' Roses has it made.
After all, there's a new BMW, a new condo, a parcel of land in
Wisconsin on which he plans to build his dream house and, of course,
the adoration of millions. One would think that life for Rose
is pure rock & roll bliss. But one would be wrong.
Rose doesn't
want to discuss exactly what set him off and made him destroy
his belongings. But it becomes clear as he talks that a lot of
it has to do with suddenly being famous. "When I was growing
up, I was never really popular," he says. "Now everybody
wants to be my friend.
I like my
privacy, to live alone in my own little world. I live in a security
building, and all my calls are screened. I don't even know my
own phone number". Tucked tightly behind a couch is an Uzi
semiautomatic machine gun; nearby is a 9-mm pistol. "I'm
not paranoid," he says, explaining his fondness for weapons.
"This is how I choose to live. This is comfortable."
He wasn't
always so comfortable. The eldest of three children raised in
Lafayette, Indiana, Rose hitchhiked to Los Angeles, hoping to
hook up with guitarist Izzy Stradlin, a long time friend, and
form a band.
The two struggled
on the L.A. club circuit for years. Eventually, the duo met guitarist
Slash and drummer Steven Adler, Later, Duff McKagen responded
to a classified ad for a bassist, and Guns n' Roses were born.
The band's
early gigs were tough going. Only two people showed up for the
group's first "official" L.A. performance. Over the
following months, a series of frenzied, violent shows landed the
Gunners on the shit list of everyone, including club owners, rival
bands and the press - everyone but the fans, who grew in number
with each passing gig. After playing together for about a year
and building a strong following, Guns n'Roses were signed by Geffen
Records in March 1986 by A&R man Tom Zutaut.
The band's
debut, Appetite for Destruction,, and its quickly released follow-up
record, the extended EP G n'R Lies, have put Guns n' Roses at
the top of the hard-rock heap. The records have sold upward of
12 million copies combined, as well as simultaneously charting
Billboard's Top Five - a feat no one else has accomplished in
the last decade.
Sitting on
a black Persian rug, chain-smoking Marlboros and sipping Corona
beers, the singer welcomes any and all questions about the band.
His onstage roar is replaced by a soft-spoken tone, but nonetheless
he can be brutal in his honesty.
A few years
ago you were a poor kid in a struggling rock band, and today you're
in one of the most popular groups in the world. How have you adjusted
to your success?
Trying to
handle success is a pain in the ass. It's really strange and takes
some getting used to. I've never had my place to live before,
never had to deal with the amount of money we've made and not
get ripped off, never understood doing your taxes and all these
things. I was hating it a few months ago, trying to get organized
and trying to get a place to live and to get a grip on everything.
But now things are coming together. I've wanted to be here my
whole life.
Did you ever
in your wildest dreams think your first album AFD would do as
well as it did?
Thought about
it a lot.
Besides dreaming
about it, did you ever believe it had a real chance to sell 9
million copies?
No, but it
was like this: I thought about trying to sell more records than
Boston's first album. I always thought that and never let up.
Everything was directed at trying to achieve the sales without
sacrificing the credibility of our music. We worked real hard
to sell this many records. The album wasn't just a fluke. Maybe
Appetite will be the only good album we make, but it wasn't just
a fluke.
Does the business
end of rock & roll ever interfere with your creative attitude?
Not for us.
This is music, this is art. It's definitely a good business, but
that should be second to the art, not first. I was figuring it
out, and I'm like the president of a company that's worth between
$125 million and a quarter billion dollars. If you add up record
sales based on the low figure and a certain price for T-shirts
and royalties and publishing, you come up with at least $125 million,
which I get less than two percent of.
I like being
successful. I was always starving. On the other side. When it
came to people with money, it was always "The rich? Fuck
them!" But I left one group and joined another. I escaped
from one group where I was looked down on for being a poor kid
that doesn't know shit, and now I'm like, a rich, successful asshole.
I don't like that. I'm still just me, and with a lot of people's
help, the group was able to become a huge financial success. None
of us were the popular kids in school - we were all outcasts who
got together and pooled our talents.
Is there any
lesson you've learned that you wish you knew a few years ago?
What I'd tell
any kid in high school is "Take business classes." I
don't care what else you're gonna do, if you're gonna do art or
anything, take business classes. You can say, "Well, I don't
want to get commercial," but if you do anything to make any
money, you're doing something commercial. You can be flipping
hamburgers at McDonald's, but you're a commercial burger flipper.
Now the band
is getting ready to work on the follow-up to 'Appetite' and the
'G n' R Lies' EP. What's your frame of mind?
As my friend
Dave puts it, I'm jacking off. [laughs] We're trying to regroup.
I'm ready to work. I'm creating, and finally I have an environment
in which I can work. I haven't had that for a long time, since
three years ago, when we all used to live in one room, sitting
around writing songs. Until recently, I haven't had peace of mind.
There were always distractions, but now it's like we can finally
work on our songs.
Do you feel
heavy pressure to sell as many copies with your next album as
'Appetite'?
We have two
records out, both of them in the Top Ten, and everybody wants
another record immediately. They all say, "Let's milk this
sucker." It'd be nice to outsell that album. A lot of groups
are trying to outsell it. For a debut, it was the highest-selling
album in the history of rock and roll. Definitely in America,
but I'm not sure that's true worldwide. I read where Bon Jovi
was saying nobody's out done their biggie, Slippery When Wet.
He knew it was their biggie, and he didn't know if New Jersey
would be as big. Of course, you're gonna want to outdo it. What
I want to do is just grow as an artist and feel proud of these
new songs.
Although you're
only in the preproduction stages of the next album, how do you
feel it will compare with the others?
The next record
will definitely be much more emotional. I try to write so the
audience can understand what emotions I was feeling. Also, I think
the songs are worded in a way that a great number of people will
be able to relate to the experiences; it's not so personalized
that it's only my weird, twisted point of view. We hope to make
a very long record. It'd be nice to make one that's seventy-six
minutes long, A seventy-six-minute CD, with varied styles.
The most important
songs at this point are the ones with piano, the ballads, because
we haven't really explored that side of the band yet. They're
also the most difficult songs to do - not difficult to play, but
to write and pull out of ourselves. The beautiful music is what
really makes me feel like an artist. The other, heavier stuff
also makes me feel like an artist and can be difficult to write.
But it's harder to write about serious emotions, describing them
as best as possible rather than trying to write a syrupy ballad
just to sell records.
Any specific
titles for the next album you can talk about?
Well, there's
a song called "November Rain" and another one called
"Breakdown". There's also a song tentatively titled
"Without You". Last night, I wrote a whole new intro
to that. It just appeared out of nowhere, like the verses - just
little pieces that have come whole.
How do write
complete songs from seperate bits and pieces?
They'll just
show up. I keep them on file in my brain and then add them together.
Like, I'll be brushing my teeth and all of a sudden a prechorus
will come, and I won't know why. Then a bridge came about a year
ago. Six months ago another part came. Last night a whole intro
came. When I was writing it, I wasn't planning on putting it with
this song, but all of a sudden it just flowed.
The 'G n'
R Lies' EP surprised a lot of people because of it's emphasis
on acoustic material. Aren't you afraid that some people may be
turned off by the band straying from the sound that got them on
top?
We're not
getting away from hard rock. Our basic root is hard rock, a bit
heavier than the Stones, more in a vein like Aerosmith, Draw the
Line- type stuff. We love loud guitars. George Michael was telling
me he really loved our melodies and wondered why we covered so
much of it up with loud guitars, and I said because we love that.
I told him he should put some more loud guitars in his music.
He has such beautiful melodies, and it'd be nice to hear some
loud guitars in there. At the same time, I have my favorite symphony
pieces, orchestra pieces if you will.
I've always
looked at things in a versatile sense because of Queen, ELO, Elton
John, especially early Elton John and groups like that. With Queen,
I have my favorite: Queen II. Whenever their newest record would
come out and have all these other kinds of music on it, at first
I'd only like this song or that song. But after a period of time
listening to it, it would open my mind up to so many different
styles. I really appreciate them for that. That's something I've
always wanted to be able to achieve. It's important to show people
all forms of music, basically try to give people a broader point
of view.
Speaking of
versatility, you're known primarily as a singer, but you've been
playing piano quite a bit lately.
I've been
playing piano my whole life. I took lessons, but I only really
played my lesson on the day of the lesson. All week long, I'd
sit down at the piano and just make up stuff. To this day, I still
can't really play other people's songs, only my own. I haven't
had a piano for years. I couldn't afford one. I couldn't figure
out where I was sleeping at night, let alone try to have a place
for a piano. So I had to put it aside and have the dream that
I'd get into it. Now I really want to bring the piano out.
So far the
song that's inspired the most controversy in the band's short
career has been "One in a Million." How did you come
to write that song?
"One
in a Million" was written while sitting in the apartment
of my friend West Arkeen, who's like the sixth member of the band.
I wrote it at his house, sitting around bored watching TV. I can't
really play guitar too well, I only play the top two strings,
and I would write a little piece at a time. I started writing
about wanting to get out of L.A. , getting away for a little while.
I'd been down to the downtown-L.A. Greyhound bus station. If you
haven't been there, you can't say shit to me about what goes on
and about my point of view. There are a large number of black
men selling stolen jewelry, crack, heroin and pot, and most of
the drugs are bogus. Rip-off artists selling parking spaces to
parking lots that there's no charge for. Trying to misguide every
kid that gets off the bus and doesn't quite know where he's at
or where to go, trying to take the person for whatever they've
got. That's how I hit town. The thing with "One in a Million"
is, basically, we're all one in a million, we're all here on this
earth. We're one fish in a sea. Let's quit fucking with each other,
fucking with me.
The lyrics
have incited a lot of protest, so let's go over them line by line.
Let's start with one of the verses, "Police and niggers,
that's right/Get outta my way/Don't need to buy none/ Of your
gold chains today."
I used words
like police and niggers because you're not allowed to use the
word nigger. Why can black people go up to each other and say,
"Nigger," but when a white guy does it all of a sudden
it's a big put-down. I don't like boundaries of any kind. I don't
like being told what I can and what I can't say. I used the word
nigger because it's a word to describe somebody that is basically
a pain in your life, a problem. The word nigger doesn't necessarily
mean black. Doesn't John Lennon have a song "Woman Is the
Nigger of the World"? There's a rap group, N.W.A., Niggers
with Attitude. I mean, they're proud of that word. More power
to them. Guns n' Roses ain't bad. . . . N.W.A. is baad! Mr. Bob
Goldthwait said the only reason we put these lyrics on the record
was because it would cause controversy and we'd sell a million
albums. Fuck him! Why'd he put us in his skit? We don't just do
something to get the controversy, the press.
How about
the next verse? Immigrants and faggots/They make no sense to me/They
come to our country/And think they'll do as they please/ Like
startsome mini-Iran or spread some fuckin' disease." Why
that reference to immigrants? When I use the word immigrants,
what I'm talking about is going to a 7-11 or Village pantries
- a lot of people from countries like Iran, Pakistan, China, Japan
et cetera, get jobs in these convenience stores and gas stations.
Then they treat you as if you don't belong here. I've been chased
out of a store with Slash by a six-foot-tall Iranian with a butcher
knife because he didn't like the way we were dressed. Scared me
to death. All I could see in my mind was a picture of my arm on
the ground, blood going everywhere. When I get scared, I get mad.
I grabbed the top of one of these big orange garbage cans and
went back at him with this shield, going, "Come on!"
I didn't want to back down from this guy. Anyway that's why I
wrote about immigrants. Maybe I should have been more specific
and said, "Joe Schmoladoo at the 7-11 and faggots make no
sense to me." That's ridiculous! I summed it up simply and
said, "Immigrants."
How about
the use of the word "faggots"?
I've had some
very bad experiences with homosexuals. When I was first coming
to Los Angeles, I was about eighteen or nineteen. On my first
hitch-hiking ride, this guy told me I could crash at his hotel.
I went to sleep and woke up while this guy was trying to rape
me. I threw him down on the floor. He came at me again. I went
unning for the door. He came at me. I pinned him between the door
and the wall. I had a straight razor, and I pulled the razor and
said, "Don't ever touch me! Don't ever think about touching
me! Don't touch yourself and think about me! Nothing!" Then
I grabbed my stuff and split with no place to go, no sleep, in
the middle of nowhere outside of St. Louis. That's why I have
the attitude I have.
Are you anti-homosexual
then?
I'm proheterosexual.
I can't get enough of women, and I don't see the same thing that
other men can see in men. I'm not into gay or bisexual experiences.
But that's hypocritical of me, because I'd rather see two women
together than just about anything else. That happens to be my
personal, favorite thing.
How about
gay-bashing? Have you ever beaten up somebody simply because of
their sexual preference?
No! I never
have. The most I do is, like, on the way to the Troubador in "Boystown,"
on Santa Monica Boulevard, I'll yell out the car window, "Why
don't you guys like pussy?" 'Cause I'm confused. I don't
understand it. Anti-homosexual? I'm not against them doing what
they want to do as long as it's not hurting anybody else and they're
not forcing it upon me. I don't need them in my face or, pardon
the pun, up my ass about it.
The Rolling
Stone Interview - Axl Rose - Part II Issue #558 - August 10, 1989
by Del James
The "One
in a Million" lyrics about "faggots" who "spread
some fuckin' disease" got G n' R bounced from an AIDS benefit
in New York by the Gay Men's Health Crisis, one of the groups
that was involved with putting on the show. How did you feel about
that?
We're in no
way associated with the Gay Men's Health Crisis, except that David
Geffen is on the board of directors for the concert and he's the
owner of our record company. We were asked to do this, and we
wanted to contribute some money to help stop a deadly disease
that's killing humans of all kinds. A friend of mine who's homosexual
and was largely responsible for the record companies taking notice
of us was upset about it because we didn't even get a chance to
clear ourselves, to make good.
AIDS is something
very scary. The concert was something we wanted to do and felt
it was important to do but we were denied the opportunity. We
were even denied the opportunity to say anything about it. It
was just publicly announced that we weren't allowed to do it because
the Gay Men's Health Crisis wouldn't let us. I don't feel they
have the right to deny the money and attention they would have
gotten from us playing. It's pride, it's ignorant and it's childish.
Women seem
to be one of the more popular subjects with Guns and Roses. Are
you a romantic kind of guy?
I'm a person
that has a lot of different relationships. It's really hard to
maintain a one-on-one relationship if the other person is not
going to allow me to be with other people. I have a real open,
hedonistic, sexual attitude. Just 'cause you're not totally in
love with a person doesn't mean you don't like them. You can think
they're attractive, and you want to touch them, have a great time
with them. Maybe at that moment you are in love. I think love
and lust go hand in hand, like good and evil. One without the
other is not complete, But I don't tell someone I'm in love with
them if I'm not. I never have.
You'd describe
yourself as promiscuous then?
I have sex
as often as possible.
Don't you
ever think of contracting AIDS?
Yeah, but
I also live in a city that's supposed to get the big quake any
day. You can get killed on the freeway in drive-by shooting, the
foods irradiated, there's a million ways to go out. A lot of times,
sexual situations are very spontaneous, but I try not to be overly
careless.
So you practise
safe sex?
Practicing
safe sex . . . . I like the word practice. It means keep doing
it, keep repeating the process, get it right. Practice makes perfect.
I don't know if it'll get perfect. but you can get a lot better.
Just keep practicing.
What about
drugs? Everyone and their mother seems to have a G n' R story
involving junkie debauchery . . . .
I'm not and
never have been a junkie. The last interview in RIP Magazine got
taken out of context about me talking openly about my drug use.
That was over two years ago and was only for a few weeks when
there was nothing to do. I was also very safe about it. That doesn't
mean that at some point I won't get really sick of life and choose
to OD. Then people will go, "He was always a junkie."
That's not the case, but you can believe what you want, I don't
give a fuck. No one's really gonna believe anything I say anyway
as far as what I do or don't do with drugs, 'cause it's such a
taboo subject. Lately I've been drinking champagne for fun, a
few beers, you know. Right now drugs get in the way of my dreams
and goals. I really don't want drugs around me now, I'm not necessarily
against the use of drugs, they just don't fit in my life right
now. Then again, I could be out on tour for six months and a blast
might be what cheers me up that night.
Do you ever
think these excesses might hurt other members of the group?
I don't want
to see drugs tear up this band. I'm against when it goes too far.
Right now, for me, a line of coke is too far. A line of coke puts
my voice out of commission for a week. I don't know why. Maybe
it's because I did a lot of stuff before. Maybe it's guilt and
it's relocated in my throat. All I know is it's not healthy for
me right now. And if somebody goes, "Oh, man, he's not a
partyer anymore," hey, fuck you! Do you want a record or
not?
With all the
misconceptions floating around about G n' R, the biggest misconceptions
seem to come from magazine interviews you've granted.
That's just
a lot of sensationalism. People out there don't know what's real
or not. Things are always going to get changed or taken out of
context, but some magazines will make up an interview just to
sell issues. One's written that Slash said I run over dogs. I
think it sucks when a kid has three bucks and he buys a candy
bar, a soda and a magazine because he's really into Guns n' Roses,
and he gets bad photos and an interview that's not true. It's
not fair. Unfortunately, it probably will never change.
Some schools
have banned G n' R t-shirts, and organizations like the Parents
Music Resource Center (PMRC) have objected to what they feel is
the band's glorification of a degenerate lifestyle. When you sing
to a younger audience, do you think you have any responsibility
as their idol?
It's just
a record. . . I don't know. You have to go through your own changes
sand growth. I'm not trying to influence anybody in a negative
way. Also, I'm not raising your kid. You're the parent. The PRMC?
Who are they? A TV show, like AM/PM?
If you had
a young son, say Axl Rose II, how would you feel if he brought
home an album with lyrics about "niggers" and "faggots"?
Right now
I don't want to have a child, because I can't give it enough time.
But I'd want him to talk about what he listened to with me, and
have him show me new things, and me show him new things. He could
play me the Screaming Banshees From Hell, and I could play him
Jimi Hendrix or something. We could talk about the music. We'd
talk about things together. I think it's a parents job to raise
their child. My father likes "Welcome to the Jungle."
Ten years ago, if a song like that was caught in our house, man,
it was over. But I can't hold how he once felt against him.
Let's go back
to your childhood. Were you a bad student?
No. On the
placement tests in school, I was always in the top three percent.
I dropped out in the eleventh grade, went back as a senior, then
dropped out again.
Why did you
drop out?
'Cause I couldn't
make school work for me. I was having to read books, sing songs,
draw pictures of things that didn't stimulate or excite me. It
just didn't do anything for me. So I dropped out and started drawing
and painting at home and spending a lot of my time in the library.
Basically I started putting myself through Axl's school of subjects
that I wanted to learn about.
You grew up
in Lafayette , Indiana. What influence do you thing your small
town had in shaping you?
It made me
despise people with closed minds. It made me want to break out.
What about
small-town values?
That's a load
of shit.
Were you in
trouble a lot?
Me and my
friends were always in trouble. We got in trouble for fun. It
finally reached a point where I realized I was gonna end up in
jail, 'cause I kept fucking with the system. This guy and I got
into a fight. We became friends afterwards, and he dropped charges
against me, but the state kept on pressing charges. Those charges
didn't work, so they tried other ones. I spent three months in
jail and finally got out. But once you've pissed off a detective,
it's a vengeance rap back there.
They tried
everything. They busted me illegally in my own back yard for drinking.
They tried to get me as a habitual criminal, which can mean a
life in prison. My lawyer got the case thrown out of court. I
left and came to California. They told me not to leave, but I
left anyway. My lawyer took care of it. I didn't go back for a
long time. Now when I go back to see my family, I avoid the police
there. I try to avoid all police in general.
What happens
when you go back now as a celebrity instead of an outcast?
It gets a
little bit out of hand. I can't really go any where. I just go
to my friends' houses, but people I don't know show up wanting
autographs. People that I used to go to school with, people that
used to hate my guts, want me to invest money in this and that.
People say shit like "Axl thinks he's too cool to party with
us." But those people never wanted to party with me before,
The people who are offended by this comment are the ones who should
be.
How do you
explain your volatile nature?
When I get
stressed, I get violent and take it out on myself. I've pulled
razor blades on myself but then realized that having a scar is
more detrimental than not having a stereo. I'd rather kick my
stereo in than go punch somebody in the face. When I get mad or
upset or emotional, sometimes I'll walk over and play my piano.
Your own music
has been diluted somewhat by radio stations that play different,
shorter versions of G n' R songs. How do you feel when you music
is cut to suit the airwaves?
Not that any
of our songs compare, but if you hear a short version of "Layla,"
I think you're gonna be pissed off, especially if you're planning
on hearing the big piano part at the end. I hate the edit of "Sweet
Child o' Mine." Radio stations said, "Well, your vocals
aren't cut." My favorite part of the song is Slash's slow
solo; it's the heaviest part for me. There's no reason for it
to be missing except to create more space for commercials, so
the radio-station owners can get more advertising dollars. When
you get the chopped version of "Paradise City" or half
of "Sweet Child" and "Patience" cut, you're
getting screwed.
What kind
of music and bands do you enjoy?
That's always
the hardest question. Lately I've been listening to Derek and
the Dominos, the Bar-Kays. I really like the first Patti Smith.
I'm just starting to discover the Cure. I keep trying to find
things to open myself up to. I enjoy Sound Garden. The singer
just buries me. The guy sings so great. On the club circuit, I
like Saigon Saloon a lot.
Today, my
favorite record is Todd Rundgren's Something/Anything . I just
got turned on to it. I've still got my favorites and things like
the Pistols, ELO and Queen. The two records I always buy if there's
a cassette deck around and I don't have the tapes in my bag are
Never Mind the Bullocks and Queen II . I think I'd be in a bind
to figure out which one I'd want if I was stranded on a desert
island. I might go with the Pistols, because maybe a boat would
hear me if I played it.
You are also
a Rolling Stones fan. There were some rumors floating around about
G n' R possibly opening for them on their upcoming tour. What
happened?
No formal
offer has been made. I'd love to open for the Stones, but at the
same time I really want to do my own record. We'll probably go
back on the road sometime next year. I don't know exactly when.
Do you consider
yourself the leader of the band?
That's a good
question. I'm gonna do what I want to do. That may be selfish,
but it's the best way for the most to come out of me. When we
write a song, nobody in this band plays anything they don't really
want to. When we write a song, the bass player plays his line
and it ends up being what he wants to do on bass. It ends up working
that way and fitting, so we end up with a set of songs that everybody
likes. I couldn't say I'm the leader, like "We're gone do
what I say." It doesn't work that way.
Earlier you
touched on the rock-star image and people falling into the music
just because it adheres to a certain attitude and look. What about
Axl Rose's longhaired, tattooed, pierced-nipple image?
What about
it?
Is it just
an image?
It's part
of me. When I put on my clothes or do a photo session, I want
to look the best I can. If you're going on a date, you want to
look good for that person or for yourself. I've got enough money
now to buy a suit I like and wear it the way I want. I don't wear
suits every damn day now. Maybe I'm gonna shave and wear makeup
and do my hair fuckin' way up.
We're definitely
image conscious. I think if Izzy came wearing a clown suit to
a photo session, we'd want to know how he could validate his presence
in a clown suit. [laughs] But if he could back it up and convince
us there was a reason, then it would be cool. Otherwise, it wouldn't
be. Steven has his own way of dressing, in the latest commercial-rock
fashions. Steven enjoys the hell out of the clothes he wears,
whereas Slash and I wouldn't be caught dead in either. It's just
different personalities.
If we're gonna
do a show, I wear a headband because my hair gets in my face.
When we do a photo session, a lot of the time I'll wear a headband
because that's how I am on stage. If I feel real dominant and
decadent, I'm gonna be wearing my jack-boots and stuff like that.
I try to express myself through my clothes. It's another form
of the art. I'm not afraid of what people think about different
ways I look. I'm gonna do what I want to do.
Do you really
get hassled much when you go out locally in L.A.?
I really only
go to clubs where I know the people who work there, so I can have
some privacy and hang out. It's hard when you go to a club with
600 people and you end up having to talk to 400 people. You have
no time of your own to have fun. Maybe if I haven't gone out for
a week, I'll go to the Cathouse, because I know some friends are
gonna be there. I just want to be around my friends, even if we
don't talk about anything. I just need it.
You have all
these people asking you for an autograph, and it gets kind of
embarrassing. I don't want to be a prick to people and go, "Get
away from me." But I don't enjoy goin someplace and just
signing autographs all the time. It comes with the fame, but sometimes
it gets out of hand and people can be very rude and obnoxious
about it. I've had people break into my hotel room with cameras,
waking me up and taking photos. People find out where I live and
show up at my building. I've never asked anyone for an autograph.
Having to
deal with autographs doesn't seem like it's the worst thing in
the world. At this point in your life, what's your biggest regret?
That I didn't
talk to Todd Crew before he went to New York. [Crew, the bassist
in the band Jetboy, was a close friend of the band's who died
due to an alcohol-related overdose.] I felt a massive need to
talk to him out of concern for his well-being. But I wasn't aware
enough to realize I didn't have the time I thought I did. I thought
I'd have time later . . .
You seem to
have an exceptionally strong bond with your friends. Do you think
your values have changed any since you've become a rich rock star?
I saw a guy
last night, a homeless guy on the beach. I hate panhandlers 'cause
I've never done that. I just couldn't, it would have felt too
weird. I walked past the man and realized I had some money in
my pocket. It's not that I give everybody I see money. I don't
at all. But I handed him twenty bucks and he was like "Thanks,
man, I appreciate it." He can have breakfast tomorrow.
I could have
just walked away, but I could tell in my heart that the guy could
really use the money. He wasn't trying to scam. He looked like
he was gonna get up tomorrow and look for a job or something to
survive. I felt good about that, and I'm wondering if he's all
right now. I don't know. The next day I was hoping he didn't go
buy crack with it.
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